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Ahhhhhh... Great to be come back to the Tribe after a hyatis and see it thriving with such awesome posts!
First I must say that-- I can totally understand how some may see the Midichlorian Thing as demystifying the zen-like ambiance of the Force with scientific concepts-- though I must say that I, personally, was never thrown off by it, but immediately was absorbed even stronger INTO it. To me it only made sense, really-- the whole symbiosis thing... reciprocity... "Lifeforms working together for mutual advantage". To me it never seemed scientific, but even MORE mystical, really... Higher Reality stuff.
All Living Things ARE a part of the Universe. "Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter". All matter is TRULY moving vibrations of energy-- this is FACT... Quantum Reality. Nothing is truly SOLID... we and Everything are mostly... something other than solid. And from a scientific standpoint we really haven't been able to define the "space" between each atom that buzzes in orbit around a nucleus within a molecule that makes up a strand of DNA within the nucleus of a cell existing in an organ of a complex biological system within each living being on any planet which orbits similarly to (a) sun(s) which spiral in only a single galaxy that itself is spinning and changing in an expanding and contracting universe. It boggles the mind, but All things are truly connected, AND...
To me, Midichlorians just add ANOTHER dimention of thought and mystery to the Force... They DEEPEN my spirituality with the Force. It is MY understanding that Midichlorians are not limited to the number that one is born with. Now follow me on this one...
Energy resonates-- which means similar waves attract to each other... An individual then attracts what (s)he puts out, and focuses his/her consciousness on. "Your focus determines your reality". "Be mindful of your thoughts". One common instance in which this can be seen is the destructive way that the Dark Side may scar those who wield such powers.
I believe that yes, some people may indeed be born with higher Midichlorian counts than other people (particularly legendary figures of power, especially children of immaculate conception). But, to me, it seems clear that if one continues to act in a way that nurtures thier Highest, then those higher vibrations will be what is recieved. And acting in a way that feeds our lowest will attract lower vibrations.
And it can grow exponentially... aquiring more ability to tap and use the Force as a RESULT of using it. Now since we seem to channel the Force THROUGH the Midichlorians-- then the more Force proficient we are, the more Midichlorians we have-- and thus have willfully ATTRACTED into or BIRTHED within ourselves.
If we excercize compassion, peace, and righteousness, then THAT is what we resonate with, and thus become MORE of.
If we excercize intollerance, conflict, and selfishness, then THAT is what we resonate with, and thus become MORE of.
All the natural Laws of the Universe-- or The Force-- still apply: Causes lead to effects, and-- even WITHOUT upholding cultural human peerceptions of "Good" vs "Bad"-- certain intentions and actions simply attract or create peace and focus and healing, and certain other intentions and actions attract or create agitation and seperation and dis-ease.
The Power of The Force may be felt by those who have the Will (and perhaps an Opening to learn new beliefs that awaken oneself to empowerment) and focus of mind to plug into it the Flow that "surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together". That which "controls our actions, but also obeys our commands".
For me, it's not an interpretation of a Star Wars concept. It's a realisation of a Truth that I, for one, KNOW for myself, as it IS my reality, and I believe, too, that it is equally a reality for all of you. I see the power to BE the Jedi that you ARE existing RIGHT NOW-- if not in full-bloom then perhaps blossoming, or at least as a Seed of Possibility that DOES exist Here and Now within each of us. Perhaps I've lost some readers by this point (Boy, can I babble deeeeep stuff... and I can babble Star Wars!), or perhaps some of you already know of what I speak. For those who have read this far and STILL think it's quantum-hippy psychobabble, then I at least thank you for expanding your mind into a new direction for a few moments, and I invite you to ask yourself what ways the Midichlorian theory DOES tie into what you love about the Good Ol' Force. You'll probably discover some correllations of your very own!
Ahhhhhh... It's good to be back!
First I must say that-- I can totally understand how some may see the Midichlorian Thing as demystifying the zen-like ambiance of the Force with scientific concepts-- though I must say that I, personally, was never thrown off by it, but immediately was absorbed even stronger INTO it. To me it only made sense, really-- the whole symbiosis thing... reciprocity... "Lifeforms working together for mutual advantage". To me it never seemed scientific, but even MORE mystical, really... Higher Reality stuff.
All Living Things ARE a part of the Universe. "Luminous beings are we... not this crude matter". All matter is TRULY moving vibrations of energy-- this is FACT... Quantum Reality. Nothing is truly SOLID... we and Everything are mostly... something other than solid. And from a scientific standpoint we really haven't been able to define the "space" between each atom that buzzes in orbit around a nucleus within a molecule that makes up a strand of DNA within the nucleus of a cell existing in an organ of a complex biological system within each living being on any planet which orbits similarly to (a) sun(s) which spiral in only a single galaxy that itself is spinning and changing in an expanding and contracting universe. It boggles the mind, but All things are truly connected, AND...
To me, Midichlorians just add ANOTHER dimention of thought and mystery to the Force... They DEEPEN my spirituality with the Force. It is MY understanding that Midichlorians are not limited to the number that one is born with. Now follow me on this one...
Energy resonates-- which means similar waves attract to each other... An individual then attracts what (s)he puts out, and focuses his/her consciousness on. "Your focus determines your reality". "Be mindful of your thoughts". One common instance in which this can be seen is the destructive way that the Dark Side may scar those who wield such powers.
I believe that yes, some people may indeed be born with higher Midichlorian counts than other people (particularly legendary figures of power, especially children of immaculate conception). But, to me, it seems clear that if one continues to act in a way that nurtures thier Highest, then those higher vibrations will be what is recieved. And acting in a way that feeds our lowest will attract lower vibrations.
And it can grow exponentially... aquiring more ability to tap and use the Force as a RESULT of using it. Now since we seem to channel the Force THROUGH the Midichlorians-- then the more Force proficient we are, the more Midichlorians we have-- and thus have willfully ATTRACTED into or BIRTHED within ourselves.
If we excercize compassion, peace, and righteousness, then THAT is what we resonate with, and thus become MORE of.
If we excercize intollerance, conflict, and selfishness, then THAT is what we resonate with, and thus become MORE of.
All the natural Laws of the Universe-- or The Force-- still apply: Causes lead to effects, and-- even WITHOUT upholding cultural human peerceptions of "Good" vs "Bad"-- certain intentions and actions simply attract or create peace and focus and healing, and certain other intentions and actions attract or create agitation and seperation and dis-ease.
The Power of The Force may be felt by those who have the Will (and perhaps an Opening to learn new beliefs that awaken oneself to empowerment) and focus of mind to plug into it the Flow that "surrounds us, penetrates us, and binds the galaxy together". That which "controls our actions, but also obeys our commands".
For me, it's not an interpretation of a Star Wars concept. It's a realisation of a Truth that I, for one, KNOW for myself, as it IS my reality, and I believe, too, that it is equally a reality for all of you. I see the power to BE the Jedi that you ARE existing RIGHT NOW-- if not in full-bloom then perhaps blossoming, or at least as a Seed of Possibility that DOES exist Here and Now within each of us. Perhaps I've lost some readers by this point (Boy, can I babble deeeeep stuff... and I can babble Star Wars!), or perhaps some of you already know of what I speak. For those who have read this far and STILL think it's quantum-hippy psychobabble, then I at least thank you for expanding your mind into a new direction for a few moments, and I invite you to ask yourself what ways the Midichlorian theory DOES tie into what you love about the Good Ol' Force. You'll probably discover some correllations of your very own!
Ahhhhhh... It's good to be back!
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Midichlorian
Mon, December 19, 2005 - 7:09 AMThanks for all that, now at least I know how to spell Midichlorian. -
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Unsu...
Re: Midichlorian
Tue, December 20, 2005 - 2:35 PMyes all this makes sense!
The Indians of the forest lands of Peru have what they call "Maninkari" which is in simple terms intelligent force which live in every cingle cell of the body and also all life forms that contain DNA, it is related to as a 'spirit' in some ways the use of Ayahuasca and tobacco is believed and proven to a certain degree to bridge between DNA-Consciousness-and Maninkari. Eventually the use of the drug is not used after the Shamans establish a constant bridge. in some cultures they are trained without the use of drugs; modern Toltecs, wicca, etc.
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Re: Midichlorian
Tue, December 27, 2005 - 10:27 AM~~Many words to describe the same circle, many practices to arrive at the same truth~~ -
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Re: Midichlorian
Sat, December 31, 2005 - 10:49 PMWOW! You guys read all that? Cool... Thanks. I got no replies on the 'Star Wars' tribe!
Thanks, INDIGO, for the news about Maninkari. Interesting, too, that the Shamans would use tobbacco... Iknew that the herb carries the Medicine of Unity... it is used to connect us in oneness. Makes sense that the Shaman's would use tobbacco's sacredness to connect them-- in unity-- with... ummm... the Force.
"Many words to describe the same circle, many practices to arrive at the same truth" ~~ SPIN
Yup. Couldn't have said it better. Alot longer, maybe... but not better. Isn't that awesome... and the message is delivered through THE IMAGINATION, none-the-less... so we may EACH learn in whatever archetypal way may be unique to us. -
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Re: Midichlorian and relating to...
Sun, January 1, 2006 - 2:51 AMThe interesting thing about the tobacco is that they didn't smoke it, they made a 'drink' out of it by soaking it and performing ceremony, then they drank loads of it. Apparently it was through the tabac that they learned to use the Ayahuasca... (just a side note really). Yet unity yeah thats the cool thing, that's really it isnt it!
the Toltec tradition is (only in my experience of course) very similar to the jedi way in a lot of ways, regarding tenets and philosophies pertaining to: attachments, knowledge, sorcery, love, intent, and even good and evil (in respect) to where the Star Wars saga leads us to at the end of the second trilogy.
In the annotated screenplays Lucas mentions that the Jedi USE the dark side of the force in order to effect the external world, ie: psychokinesis, mind control etc. It is the INTENT and control (to not indulge or be swept away by the emotions that ramp up the energy which gives us the ability to use them. Anger motivates massive energy levels within the body as well as excitement or joy, to have the awareness to be able to use all the energy created by all emotions in a way that supports life in all its forms and expressions may be the goal-and it may look like 'evil' to another or 'good' to yet another.) to which these abilities are used which leads humans into the realms of evil and good which we created, the living force exists outside of human definition and judgement.
The force being the TONAL expression
and the living force being representative of the NAGUAL expression
(read Carlos Castaneda or Miguel Ruiz-they may have their own myths (christianity, paganism, sorcery. gods, goddesses. etc. applied to them yet the information is sound)
Even science finds that 'mind' exists within the individual cells of a living organism. COOL STUFF!
We can be aware of them and them of us because it is all the same 'mind' yet different-which can create the illusion that we are all separate and therefore alone in our experiences or incapable of attaining our dreams- though becoming aware of the 'mind' we can find that there is no aloneness or separation between us and anything "only in you mind." says yoda of the difference between the rock and the ship. An intense process and possibly a lifetime adventure, yet a MAGICAL ADVENTURE nonetheless.
I like what you say ARANOR about 'connect in unity' it speaks to how the SAME thing is colored in many different ways, the beauty of being human and sharing different experiences!
Love that!
Sorry for the long message, this is a great forum! I've learned loads! Thanks for letting me blab and share!
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!
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Huncuppi...
Sun, January 1, 2006 - 5:32 PMWOW, Man!
WOW! You just went off on a TEAR! WHEEEE!!!
You're just so right on the money! I didn't know much of anything, really, about the Toltec Ways, except for that which already exists inside me. Star Wars has been monumental in shaping me spiritually in this lifetime... It came into my life at age 6 or so, when it came into theaters.
Crow speaks through you. Crow is Keeper of Sacred Law... teachings that are beyond Human Law.
Anyhow I'm so on to what you're saying. There are just SO many paralells... It's really great to be in a forum where we can come out and connect. There's alot of Star Wars fans out there, but not too, too many of them are spiritualistic regarding The Force... and most of those who DO see Star Wars 'spiritually' often show intolerance to all the NEW teachings that Episodes One through Three reveal.
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Unsu...
All Matter an Energy?
Sat, January 14, 2006 - 3:26 PMHave any of you seen I <3 Huckabees?
And are you familiar with their example of all matter and energy in the universe explained VIA the blanket?
If you havn't I'll try and do my best, because i think its a good way to help understand how we're all connected.
Now Go grab a blanket.
Lets say, that this blanket, represents EVERYTHING in the universe, all the matter, all the energy, everything that ever was, can, and will be, is in there.
Now pick a spot on the blanket, anywhere on the blanket it doesn't matter, You see that spot? Thats you, now go all the way to the corner of the blanket, you see that little bitty spot on the corner? Thats me! now just go anywhere else, lets say this next spot you pick, its a virus! now another spot, lets say its,oh, i don't know, A chunk of swiss cheese, and over at yoru next spot, its bush, and on the next, mars, on the next the star bettle juice. (I think you get the idea)
Now, take a good look at everything. (the blanket) Notice anything? We're all the same, we're all different, but most importantly we're all connected with everything.
Is the "Force" what holds the blanket together? By exercising knowledge of this interconnectiveness, you can increase you're "force" power? maybe? -
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Re: All Matter an Energy?
Wed, January 18, 2006 - 3:51 PMI didn't see 'Huckabees', Sheep.
>> Is the "Force" what holds the blanket together?
The Force is an energy field created by All Living Things... It surrounds us, it penetrates us, it binds the galaxy (and thus, the blanket) together.
>> By exercising knowledge of this interconnectiveness, you can increase you're "force" power? maybe?
Our very own lives being symbiotic with Midichlorians is a great example of growing stronger in the Force AS A RESULT OF focusing our consciousness ON our interconnectiveness with All Living Things. Without the midichlorians, Life could not exist, and we would have no knowledge of the Force. They continually speak to us, teaching us the Will of the Force. When we learn to quiet our minds, we hear them speaking to us. The more time and training we devote, the more we understand.
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Thanks for sharing your blanket analogy.
"We do not weave the web of life. We are but a strand IN the web of life. What we do to the web. We do to ourselves. All things are connected."
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: All Matter an Energy?
Mon, January 23, 2006 - 9:02 PMYup, right on the money...
I dig it.
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