rebel alliance

topic posted Wed, November 3, 2004 - 1:52 PM by  john alexander
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Do any of you jedi have any ideas on how we can get this thing on? The time is RIGHT NOW in a galaxy RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE! How can we unite and bolster the rebel forces to dismantle this evil empire? This thing is for real.
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john alexander
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  • Re: rebel alliance

    Wed, November 3, 2004 - 1:56 PM
    I invite all jedis to a tribe I am forming--please check out touchthesunproduction.tribe.net. It's an artist collective and more.
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    Re: rebel alliance

    Sun, November 7, 2004 - 2:35 PM
    Me suggests that the real power of Jedi's is the balance between working alone and working with others. Me thinks that Jedi teams would be stronger than individual Jedis. To have a team you have to distinguish roles so ye utilize strength and cover weakness. So what would the structure be to a jedi team?
    • Re: rebel alliance

      Mon, November 8, 2004 - 12:46 PM


      Well, first I think we must admit that the manifestation proccess might be somewhat fragile, with people questioning exactly WHAT it is that we might REALLY be trying to do (I might be one of those people). So we need to know that we have a BASIC intention, and that our intentions will become more defined and crystalized as we discuss more... or as the TEAM begins to gather and grow.

      Having admited that it shall be precarious or somewhat flimsy of a 'structure' at first, we must THEN address and resolve those issues that KEEP this structure flimsy... the one we've aggreed on is that we really have no structure yet... the idea of a TEAM having only just now come up.

      So I think that a 'Leader' might just sway fellow Jedi away from co-creating this with us. *** CO-CREATION *** THAT's what I think this should be. That-- like the Jedi-- each has her / his own belief structure and 'fighting style' that at least SOMEWHAT flows with the tennants of the Jedi (think of the beauty of Qui Gonn's rebelliousness to the Council).

      So perhaps we should "market" the idea as one with a more artistic, productive, 'you-are-important' sort-of feel... emphasizing the CO-CREATIVE element. Of course, that INTENTION Thing is still an issue. What IS this about? The Team Idea is a good one, though what do we do?

      I suppose we could begin by sharing ideas, and the whole thing might just go THAT way... a Jedi Team that works by changing the world on a one-on-one basis, but uniting to share in our experiences and offer advice or suggestions on raising the vibration in the families and communities around each of us as individuals.

      To answer your questrion more directly, Captain... the structure of a Jedi Team would begin by getting us all within reasonable driving distance from each other... unless, of course, we expand our minds to more plausible solutions, along the lines of what I've suggested.
      • Re: rebel alliance

        Wed, November 10, 2004 - 6:31 PM
        yes, exactly. cocreators are the only kind of participants we need for this endeavor: if everybody brings the strength of their will (intent) to the table and cooperates knowing that our wills are one, our efforts will be much more effective than if we were a bunch of sheep.

        i have started a new tribe that i would like to see all padoin learners, jedi knights, and masters of the force take part in. It is HUMANMANDALAPROJECT.tribe.net. please be serious about this and realize that, while i may be speaking in metaphor, that which i discuss is ACTUAL.
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          15 Jedis

          Sat, November 13, 2004 - 9:16 AM
          I have been working on a teambuilding system for ten years. I propose this as my part of the co-creation of the rebel alliance...

          I ask are there 15 jedis out there willing to form a jedi team using this system?

          Here are the different roles (they may seem a bit familair to you):

          2.3.1 Science Officer
          2.3.2 Engineering oFFicer
          2.3.3 1st Officer
          2.3.4 Logistics Officer
          2.3.5 Communication officer
          2.3.6 Diplomatic Officer
          2.3.7 Navigation Officer
          2.3.8 Security Officer
          2.3.9 Captain
          2.3.A Counsellor/Healer
          2.3.B Morale Officer
          2.3.C Planning Officer
          2.3.D Translation Officer
          2.3.E Intelligence Officer
          2.3.0 Portal Officer
          • Re: 15 Jedis

            Sat, November 13, 2004 - 6:27 PM
            I'll be communication, intelligence or security. What do the cards say, oh captain, my captain?
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              Re: 15 Jedis

              Sat, November 13, 2004 - 6:54 PM
              I was wondering about how we would do that...first come first serve?..talents matching job?...or random?...or pass aqualification process?

              What says ye all?

              There does not seem to be a runon it.
          • Re: 15 Jedis

            Sat, November 13, 2004 - 9:48 PM
            I am very good at communication and morale... or so my coworkers tell me. I suppose I could also be counsellor/healer. I have a talent for talking people better. I'm a passable diplomat, but I have a problem with fools and do not suffer them gladly. I can be very direct, to the point of bluntness, when diplomacy fails.
          • Re: 15 Jedis

            Sun, November 14, 2004 - 12:51 AM
            Mornin' Cap'n--

            Yes... I think that the jobs best suited to the individual might be in order. I like your structure, too, though it may be too complex at such an early stage of dovelopment... I don't know.

            I'm much like Candice (Hi, Sweets!)... I've got a knack with people of all sorts... the only one's who I have trouble getting through to are those who have victim-mentality and find the Light of others to be a bitter reminder of thier current elf-percieved dimness instead of an inspiration, though that's the Growth Proccess of the individual, and not my battle to fight.

            Communications, maybe... more towards Healer/Counselor or Morale, I'd say, for me. I think the titles could be combined if we simplify, and I'll vote for Candace, none-the-less.
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              Re: 15 Jedis

              Mon, November 15, 2004 - 8:51 AM
              Arrr, more crew showing up. Looks like an adventure might be a foot.

              Me has a certain system with these jobs. While it may be a bit complex for the landlubbbers, me would hope that Jedis could handle it. Each job looks after something specific. You don't have the carpenter doing the work of the surgeon or the cook the work of the Captain!

              But ye may have a point of growing into it and multi tasking until others show up. Until they do what is going to be the reason for organizing the team?

              What are the jedis going to do once a team is formed. And remember the empire is listening!
              • Re: 15 Jedis

                Mon, November 15, 2004 - 1:39 PM
                Thanks Aranor :)

                Captain, there is much to be said for multi-tasking before and after a team is formed. Before, because as you say, it will take time to fill all the positions, but also after, because if we should lose a member (for whatever reason), it's important that someone should be able to assume control of a situation without pause. If I might suggest that whatever position a person takes according to their ability, they also act as an "understudy" to someone else's position in case it becomes necessary to do double duty.

                Even so, in all things a Jedi should be self-sufficient. Any member of a team should have the necessary training to temporarily take up the duties of another position until a replacement is available.

                As for the goal of such a team, it seems obvious to me it should exist for the advancement of humanity. I would say sentient beings if we had any contact with non-Terran beings, but since it's just us.... At any rate, it should be obvious to any of us, that by advancement, I don't mean monetary or material advancement... but a more ethical and honorable way of interacting for all of humanity. That's something we could promote by example as well as through "policing" action... preferably as impartial representatives.

                I would much rather be considered a peace maker than a peace keeper. A peace maker implies creation, empowerment of a person's better instincts, while a peace keeper suggests force, suppression of person's desires.
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                  Re: 15 Jedis

                  Mon, November 15, 2004 - 9:04 PM
                  Arrrr...It would be alightish if there was something specific we could do. A real project as a first jedi Mission. Of course it would have to be for the greater good....any treasure we could give it to someone of worth...

                  We needs a jedi mission...whats says ye...what could wedo...maybe raid some other tribes...that wouldn't do...take over the white house...I don't like the wallpaper...destroy the death star...younk luke will do that....any suggestions?

                  Where are the rest of the Jedi? Are ye landlubbers or warriors? Are ye lurkers and geeks or are ye JEDI? We need 15? Where are ye?
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                    Re: 15 Jedis

                    Tue, November 16, 2004 - 10:02 AM
                    Yes... YES, Cap'n!

                    A mission, indeed, is what we all need!

                    Intention. A Jedi's use of the Force is-- in effect-- Magic. And Magic is nothing more than a shifting of Conciousness... ACTIVE INTENTION OF DREAM.

                    Thing is... we have no INTENTION right now... which is fine. No judgements. The Jedi Council didn't just happen overnight, I'll bet. It's all coming together.

                    "Patience."

                    I concur with Candace's reminder that we are all Jedi, and thusly self-sufficient, so I don't think we should devote TOO much energy into the logistics of who wears what title. These positions we may hold will likely not have alot of heavy-weight significance, anyways, as we EACH are equally full of beauty and ideas to be shared by All. It's true that I like the idea of a loose, free-form structure, but I think that roles and 'positions' of this Jedi Ship will be naturally assumed as we begin to leave port. We need not burden ourselves with such concerns right now, I feel. The question that we might wish to focus on is what we-- as a Gathering of Jedi individuals-- wish to DO here, as a team.

                    I know we're EACH probably doing our work in our seperate, day-to-day lives... I know that *I* am. Thing is, what can we ALL do as a whole?

                    Perhaps we're doing it now... an information exchange... taking on the roles of both Master AND Apprentice... teching and learning from one another in the ways that we might make a bigger difference in the world. Perhaps we can elaborate on this more... perhaps I'll begin another thread where we can do this. No need to restrict ourselves from sailing the seas because we only have a skeleton crew.

                    Arrr Arrr, Cap'n.

                    :?)
                    • So.... what is the mission and who are we fighting?

                      Wed, February 2, 2005 - 2:50 PM
                      This is "THE" conversation.

                      It is not about king George.

                      We are fighting ignorance with education.

                      Get to know to know who "THEY" are.

                      CFR - The Council on Foreign Relations.
                      Read: www.solomax.com/aug.8.3.html

                      and then look at: www.cfr.org/

                      The key is to be main stream, but grassroot. Community centers... like nevering ending summer camps... Jedi training camps if you will. Yes... the government will try to shut them down if you do a good job and speak truth. We'll do it anyway.

                      It starts with getting people away from the TV... in circles, face to face to face.

                      The head of a new national scouting organization has just contacted me to help develop the program. This guy is rad and it is happening. These are the Jedi scouts. This is huge: www.starscoutingamerica.org/

                      Many are doing great things, but we need to work together. We need to expose what is going on.... on a mess scale. The research I've done today has uncover craziness: www.solomax.com/feb.2.5.html

                      Let people know! They choose to build underground cities for congressmen... instead of schools and hospitals for everyone else.

                      Let people know! Knowledge is Power!

                      Stay open and shine on!

                      -Cory
                      actionheronetwork.net
            • Re: 15 Jedis

              Tue, November 16, 2004 - 8:47 PM
              I'm down!
              I am in no way a good organizer, but I am a good "do-er".
              Perhaps we should start separate threads for brainstorming project/mission ideas and goals of the alliance. Then we could start a new thread related to how to move forward with our chosen goals/project. I think that would be a good way to organize things so they don't get all jumbled up in this thread amongst people's enthusiastic replies of simply wanting to go ahead with the alliance. agreement?
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                Re: 15 Jedis

                Tue, November 16, 2004 - 8:56 PM
                Arrrr...Now there is the Navigation officer showing which way to go...I'll start the thread now...Yoeman's work Tamsen!
              • Re: 15 Jedis

                Wed, November 17, 2004 - 2:21 AM
                GOOD CALL, Tamsen!
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                  Re: 15 Jedis

                  Sat, November 20, 2004 - 1:30 PM
                  Hey All,
                  wow, so beaurocratic of us..... organizing roles and stuff.....
                  what about instead, agreeing on a goal, for example, the exposure of the corruption of the gov't, to the average un-awakened person, and to accomplish the goal, make a list of steps that need to be taken. The idea being, that yes, while organization is very necessary in a lot of ways, so is ACTION! Even more so i would say. So, Jedi, lets practice. Lets decide on one small thing to manifest. And do it. Then when we see how long it takes to happen, focus more, set another goal of manifestation, and do it. Do you guys follow? And the ultimate goal being, for example, the impeachment of mr. bush-shit. How's that sound?
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                    Re: 15 Jedis

                    Sat, November 20, 2004 - 6:36 PM
                    sure, what do you want to start with?
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                    Re: 15 Jedis

                    Sun, November 21, 2004 - 12:26 AM
                    Arrrr, thats aninsult if I ever heard one! Beurocratic...Arrrr...I'd like to sail me ship right through any institution filled with them landlubbers.

                    Just because there might be a bit of structure doesn't mean thatit has to constrain your freedom..far from it it opens up the pathways to work together...

                    A big man without a point guard doesnt get the ball fed to them where they like it. I someone is researching the database, someone has tobuild the database..it takes a different skil lset.

                    Maybe its too soon to structure anything as of yet..its just that there are other teams to connect to that will be using the same system...then ye will see some major shit hit the proverbial fan...have a little trust in ol' Captain Sweep...There is more to his broom than meets the eye.
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                      Re: 15 Jedis

                      Sun, November 21, 2004 - 12:27 AM
                      That said it is a fine idea to have a goal...thats what we have been barinstorming in regards to a mission..any thoughts....
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                        Re: 15 Jedis

                        Sun, November 21, 2004 - 3:20 PM
                        okay, lets manifest the troops coming home! no more war for oil!!!!
                        • Re: 15 Jedis

                          Sun, November 21, 2004 - 5:19 PM
                          Here are some links to United For Peace and Justice, they are one of the largest organizations working to end the war/occupation. There are so many others as well.

                          www.unitedforpeace.org/downlo...202.pdf

                          unitedforpeace.org/download...ition.pdf

                          www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php

                          What do you see as the Jedi contribution to all this? They have a petition we could circulate, and information to use when contacting congresspeople with our concerns, and articles we could post places where many people would get informed...
                          We should also look into what the other tribes with this goal are doing.
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                            Re: 15 Jedis

                            Thu, December 9, 2004 - 8:51 PM
                            Due to the lack of interest and initiative I withdraw my offer of a utilizing the teambuilding system for you 'jedis'.

                            I don't know what other signals you need to see that there is a major problem happening right now on this planet that will effect you one day.

                            For those actively doing something about it, I salute you. For those of you with your head in the sand, thinking you will get around to it someday...its time to wake up. Its time to really be a Jedi.

                            In the future if you are interested and you qualify, you can find me in The Utopia Game.
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                              Re: 15 Jedis

                              Thu, December 16, 2004 - 4:18 PM
                              I think you're confusing the Jedi with Starfleet...

                              The Jedi aren't white hats running around doing good. They're a monastic order. They're focused on self development and helping others, not ripping out governments.
  • Re: rebel alliance

    Tue, December 14, 2004 - 9:48 PM
    Captain - I couldn't agree with anyone more, about there being a real problem going on right now. I think the real problem though is that so many people don't understand how big a problem it really is. People outside the U.S. seem to have a better undertanding of this than americans do.
    I realized what part of the problem is while I was watching CNN last night. I saw that they we're going to have a blip about McCain's arguments with Dubya, so I watched the whole thirty minute go around of topics. I was out of the room for a whole 45 seconds, and when I came back, they were talking about the Peterson case. McCain got less than 45 seconds, and I missed it. Peterson got 15 minutes. People are being kept dumb by our media.
    The other thing that's difficult is learning the proper use of language, in order to defuse arguments. Most of us believe strongly about something, and when we aproach someone who believes strongly about the exact opposite, communication becomes a problem. This is why ideas like "expose the truth" are hard to make really happen. Look at F. 911 for example, millions of people went to see it, but only a tiny number of people went "hey, that totally changed my views on Bush", those that support Bush are more likely to go "that Moore is a liberal wanker!". We need to find ways to speak that pull the opportunity to label one as a "conservative", or a "liberal", out of the equation. I'm not sure how this is done, I just know that this would help open a dialogue between some of the more opposing viewpoints in our society.
    Jedi:
    I believe in part, this starts with becoming still, and making sure we are acting from a place of love, rather than a place of anger. Wisdom is the courage to not respond to your intitial reaction, by use of force. Instead we need to tap into the energy our emotions create, and learn to wield it for the greater good of the all. There is a change comming, but we need to learn how to better hear the answers.
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      Re: rebel alliance

      Mon, December 27, 2004 - 3:47 PM
      well said
      • Re: rebel alliance

        Mon, January 31, 2005 - 7:30 PM
        I had started research to make a convenient website to find info on progressive organizations, which i'm still doing, but with my current lack of time it will be a much longer and drawn out process than i thought. i will also no longer be doing it under the unbrella of this or the rebel alliance tribe. but when i get enough to make something useful i'll be sure to post a link. good luck to you all! --peace--

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